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Let's make it very clear what is actually happening: Because Photos deprecates drag-and-drop export, Photos is less capable of doing what just about all other photo applications on the Mac are and have been totally capable of doing for 30 years: The core Mac feature of drag and drop. Home Download Buy Manage. To any website that supports HTML5 drag and drop. Outlook2Web to drag emails as a.zip file contain the.eml message.
Files replaces the iCloud Drive app in iOS 11 and brings a number of enhancements to working with your files on your iPhone and iPad. There is a Browse and Recents tab at the bottom of the Files app. In the Browse tab you can easily navigate between files stored on iCloud or on your device, a Recently Deleted location along with Favorites, and Tags. Let’s dive into some of the details.
When browsing your files and folders, you can tap Select in the top right corner to get some editing options, or alternately do a long press for even more choices. As you’ll notice above, Search is prominently featured at the top (as it is ) followed by Locations, Favorites, and Tags. In Recently Deleted, you can search, delete and recover (also Recover All or Delete All). The Recents tab is a useful new feature and makes it seamless to continue on with your current work. Just like in the Browse tab, you can do a long press on documents in Recents for a quick way to edit, share, tag, and more. When you open files like PDFs or images, you’ll find easy access to marking up and sharing. You’ll also see the option to Create Watch Face with compatible images and support for third-party share sheet buttons too.
When you open files like Pages, Numbers, or Keynote documents, iOS will automatically open the doc in the corresponding app. Just make sure you have the iWork apps loaded onto your iPhone or iPad (without having the apps on your phone they’ll open as read only in the Files app). One other curious detail, iWork documents only seem to editable when they live in the Pages, Numbers, or Keynote folders in iCloud Drive/Files app. Hopefully this will be sorted out soon enough. You can also open Microsoft Word, Excel, and Powerpoint files (if they are in the Pages, Numbers, or Keynote folder) and iOS will offer to Open or Open a Copy (preserving the original) of the file. Check out our for more help getting the most out of your Apple devices. You might also like:.
Terence, I appreciate your expertise, but there are several use cases where your solution does not work. For example, I am using an older version of Adobe Photoshop and I can't access the files in Photos through the Open dialog in PS, I can't drag and drop from Photos to PS and I can't use Adobe Bridge to open from Photos. The 'best' solution at this point is to copy from Photos into a folder on the Desktop and open from there, creating duplicate files.
This adds two steps to my workflow. Very un-Apple like.
The absence of drag and drop functionality between applications is a fundamental flaw in Photos and should be resolved ASAP. I've submitted product feedback already and encourage others who find this thread to do the same at.
Terence Devlin wrote: I think you'll find that with simple organising, using the search facility and as the caching improves, that it's actually faster. You're welcome. While your explanation is technically correct, it does not acknowledge that Photos is functionally inadequate.
Sure, the Media Browser is nice, but it is not always the best or fastest way. Let's make it very clear what is actually happening: Because Photos deprecates drag-and-drop export, Photos is less capable of doing what just about all other photo applications on the Mac are and have been totally capable of doing for 30 years: The core Mac feature of drag and drop. It puts Photos behind other photo applications in a feature list, and makes Photos less a useful solution. Terence, I appreciate your expertise, but there are several use cases where your solution does not work. For example, I am using an older version of Adobe Photoshop and I can't access the files in Photos through the Open dialog in PS, I can't drag and drop from Photos to PS and I can't use Adobe Bridge to open from Photos.
The 'best' solution at this point is to copy from Photos into a folder on the Desktop and open from there, creating duplicate files. This adds two steps to my workflow. Very un-Apple like. The absence of drag and drop functionality between applications is a fundamental flaw in Photos and should be resolved ASAP. I've submitted product feedback already and encourage others who find this thread to do the same at. Terence Devlin wrote: I think you'll find that with simple organising, using the search facility and as the caching improves, that it's actually faster. You're welcome.
While your explanation is technically correct, it does not acknowledge that Photos is functionally inadequate. Sure, the Media Browser is nice, but it is not always the best or fastest way. Let's make it very clear what is actually happening: Because Photos deprecates drag-and-drop export, Photos is less capable of doing what just about all other photo applications on the Mac are and have been totally capable of doing for 30 years: The core Mac feature of drag and drop. It puts Photos behind other photo applications in a feature list, and makes Photos less a useful solution. Robert Haddan wrote: Terence, I appreciate your expertise, but there are several use cases where your solution does not work. For example, I am using an older version of Adobe Photoshop and I can't access the files in Photos through the Open dialog in PS, I can't drag and drop from Photos to PS and I can't use Adobe Bridge to open from Photos.
The 'best' solution at this point is to copy from Photos into a folder on the Desktop and open from there, creating duplicate files. This adds two steps to my workflow. Very un-Apple like. There is a slightly simpler workaround.
If you have been importing images to Photos as referenced photos, right-click (or equivalent) the image in Photos and choose 'Show Referenced File in Finder.' The photo file will pop up in the Finder and you can drag that to any program you want. This means you don't have to create a duplicate file, nor do you have to worry about whether an application supports the Media Browser because you can just use standard drag and drop. The catch of course is that only works with referenced files. In iPhoto it worked with any file, but in Photos they have restricted this ability to referenced photos only.
To import photos as referenced in the future, in Photos, open Preferences. In the General tab, uncheck 'Copy items to the Photos library.' Now photos will stay in their original folders, not be duplicated into the Photos library. I do not know how to convert images already inside the Photos library to referenced photos other than exporting all, making sure the preference is changed, then re-importing. As we are seeing so much with Photos, 'this is not ideal.' I don't think it's realistic to expect Photoshop to add the Media Browser.
It never has, and probably never will. This doesn't make it un-Mac-like; the vast majority of Mac applications do not implement the Media Browser, and certainly not most professional applications, since the Media Browser is so limiting. As we have seen in this thread, even some Apple applications like Safari, Preview, and TextEdit do not use the Media Browser but will accept a dropped photo from anything other than Photos, so unfortunately the lack of drag and drop support in Photos makes it less integrated even with current applications made by Apple itself. What is more possible is in the future, Apple might decide to add drag-and-drop capability to Photos. But as long as Photos is crippled by the lack of that, we will need to use workarounds that are unnecessary in most other Mac applications.
If you have been importing images to Photos as referenced photos, right-click (or equivalent) the image in Photos and choose 'Show Referenced File in Finder.' The photo file will pop up in the Finder and you can drag that to any program you want. This means you don't have to create a duplicate file, nor do you have to worry about whether an application supports the Media Browser because you can just use standard drag and drop. You need to be careful here.
If you save that image after editing in Photoshop then the thumbnail in Phots will not relate the changes. If you save as, well then it doesn't save you a duplicate, of course. Evert application supports a media browser. It's system wide. Photoshop doesn't have to add the media browser, it's already there. Safari, Preview and Text Edit all support the media browser.
Terence Devlin wrote: Evert application supports a media browser. It's system wide.
Photoshop doesn't have to add the media browser, it's already there. Safari, Preview and Text Edit all support the media browser.
I stand corrected here. I didn't notice in the first link that the Media browser is in the Sidebar. Since I find Photos inadequate I don't keep photos in there, so I had collapsed the Media sidebar category and dragged it further down and forgot it was there. But I now see that Terence is correct that it is system wide because it is in the Open/Save sidebar and that's why he could say Safari, TextEdit, and Preview support it. I then did a test and now understand how the actual situation here:. Apple appears to be deprecating drag/drop in favor of the Media Browser.
This is based on the fact that where iPhoto supported direct dragging to other applications like Photoshop, Photos does not. It is not true that Photoshop must add support for the Media Browser, because it already works.
My test involved using File/Open in Photoshop. It does display the Media Browser in File/Open, and when a photo is chosen, it will open in Photoshop. Brandy and Robert, it looks like this should now be the primary workaround. In many situations, this is still not as convenient as direct drag and drop. It is not true that the Media Browser is always the fastest way to open a photo.
When a photo is already visible in a Finder window, it is faster to just drag it from the Finder window into an application. When a photo is already visible in Photos, that is of no value compared to the Finder because Photos makes you go to the other application first, then go into the Open/Save dialog box, knowing enough about the photo (filename, keyword.) to pull it up in Media Browser search, or dig through the Events/Moments in Media Browser to retrieve it. When you could have just dragged in one step. One more thing I forgot to mention.
IPhoto supported 'Edit in External Editor,' so another workaround back then was to set up Photoshop as the external editor. In Photos that is not available, and seems to be more evidence that Apple is really trying to shoehorn all workflows through the Media Browser whether it's a good idea in a given situation or not. I just think it's funny that after all of the UI progress in OS X and iOS toward direct manipulation and the elimination of dialog boxes, Apple is now pushing us through the Open/Save dialog to do something that used to be direct. Apple Footer.
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